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27 November 2010

11-27-2010, 10:43 AM

Cecile81

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Adoption in Laos

Dear All,

We are Cecile and Jerome, and are looking into adoption in Laos. We would be happy to meet anyone who has succesfully adopted there, or hear of any advice / suggestions you may have. We are trying to get in contact with lawyers in Vientiane, but no reply so far....

Thank you !

Cecile.

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11-29-2010, 08:53 AM

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Please read the U.S. State Department discussion of the process at adoption.state.gov.

Adoption from Laos must be considered very high risk. The adoption process sounds simple in theory, but it may be difficult on the Laotian side because there are no detailed regulations spelling out how the law is to be applied; you may hear lots of different things from different people or branches of the government.

And, more importantly, the U.S. Embassy is going to scrutinize every situation very carefully, because some unscrupulous people are procuring babies improperly and false paperwork may also be an issue. If you adopt a child and the U.S. government refuses to issue an adoption visa because the child's paperwork is considered fraudulent or the facilitator who identified a baby is considered corrupt, you may be legally and morally responsible for that child but unable to bring him/her home.

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11-30-2010, 02:26 AM

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Dear Sharon,

Thank you kindly for your answer.

We are aware that "direct" adoption in such countries are risky....but it seems to be our only alternative...(we had no luck with adoption agencies, which seem to have too many demands at the moment, and thus we are looking into other ways to get to our child).

We have contacted some attorneys known by the US embassy in Laos, believing that it may be our best bet to have a legal process going. However, none have answered our Emails. We were just wondering if anyone had had a better chance...?

Thank you again Sharon,

Cecile.

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12-01-2010, 08:12 AM

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I'm not aware of any agencies working in Laos, and this ALWAYS raises red flags.

With so many countries closing to adoption or changing their requirements, agencies are constantly looking for new countries in which to work. They will try to open programs in ANY country that allows international adoption, has children in need, has a reasonably clear process, and is not so riddled with corruption that ethical adoption is impossible.

When you see a situation where international adoption is permitted, but none of the experienced agencies in the U.S. has a program there, you can be sure that ethical independent adoption is going to be extremely difficult, if not impossible.

Sharon

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12-01-2010, 09:39 AM

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Just chiming in here to second Sharon's warning. You should be very wary of trying to adopt from this country. If you look at the numbers, in recent years there are 2, or 3 international adoptions completed between Laos and the US. That means that annually, only a handful of children are successfully adopted from Laos to the USA, and these include relative adoptions where the adoption is completed after the parent marries a US citizen. See the stats here:

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US citizens typically flock to any country that has stable conditions for international adoption, adopting as many children as are available. Look for instance at the numbers for neighboring countries like China and South Korea. If Laos had favorable conditions, the statistics would be demonstrating more adoptions taking place. This is indeed a very risky country to adopt from - you really wouldn't want to be caught up in an adoption effort that might be impossible to complete - it is very costly in emotional and material resources.

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12-01-2010, 10:05 AM

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Thank you both. Yes, what you say does raise questions......especially if adoptions that occured were "relative" adoptions.

If we get more info, we'll make sure to post it.

Cecile.

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12-01-2010, 10:47 AM

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My understanding is that relative adoptions generally do NOT include the minor bio children of a foreign national now living in the U.S. and married to an American citizen. More commonly, such children come over on dependent visas, not adoption visas, since they are coming to live with their biological parent. The American spouse then does a "stepparent adoption" in the U.S., if he/she chooses to do so. It's much quicker and easier to go this route, since you don't need to deal with I-600/I-800 issues and foreign government adoption rules, and stepparent adoptions are fairly easy.

In general, relative adoptions are done by other family members, now living in the U.S. As an example, suppose that a woman living in a foreign country has a baby outside of marriage, and the bio father is not in the picture. The woman's sister and her husband, who immigrated to the U.S. and became U.S. citizens, agree to adopt the child since the biological mother cannot afford to raise him/her and is afraid that the child will be ostracised because of the out of wedlock birth. If the foreign government approves the adoption, and if the child qualifies for immigration (orphan status, age, valid papers), an adoption visa (IR-3 or IR-4) can be granted.

Still, your point is well-taken. Anytime you see only a handful of adoptions from a particular country, these adoptions tend to have been carried out by relatives of the biological parents. The foreign government is much more likely to approve these adoptions, and it is generally easier for a relative who knows the foreign country well to navigate the adoption process.

Sharon

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born 10/18/95

adopted 5/5/97

Xiamen (Fujian prov.), China